Episode Transcript
[00:00:07] Speaker A: Okay, picture this. It's 1943. You're in Nazi occupied Paris. Every single one of your colleagues has just been arrested. The Gestapo secret police, not super great guys. They are actively hunting you. You have a suitcase full of radio equipment and you have two get on a plane home or stay.
Most people would get on the plane, but our person today stayed. She became the only allied wireless operator left in the entire city. And she did it alone for four months.
Four months alone in occupied Paris.
Welcome to the podcast.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: And today we're kicking off our very first episode with a woman who was a princess, a musician, a children's book author, and one of the most daring spies of the Second World War hero.
[00:00:52] Speaker A: Her name is Nora Nya Khan.
Yes.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: And by the end of this episode, you're going to be absolutely obsessed. I will have to give a little disclaimer that I don't know how to say her name. This is the first time I'm hearing about her. But K Fler has put together this awesome legends format for the podcast that we're going to be going through. And so she's going to kind of tell you a little bit of the backstory about this incredible legend and then why she chose her, etc and hopefully you become obsessed as well.
Really bold claim, but let's go.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: At the end of this podcast, you're able to pronounce her name. Nor Anayak Khan.
Yeah, she's incredible. We're going to learn all about her today. It's just a little bit of a different podcast format, but here we are. So let's go back to the beginning. She was born in Moscow, 1914. Yes, Moscow. To a father who was an indie Sufi mystic and musician and an American mother.
Her dad, Hazrat Inayat Khan, was actually famous. He was one of the first people to bring Sufi teaching to the west. And he genuinely believed that music was a pathway to God. Very spiritual, very gentle energy, which, you know, we cannot stress this enough, I
[00:02:02] Speaker B: feel like for the time. That's definitely interesting.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: Definitely makes everything that Noor ends up doing just approximately 1000% more dramatic, I think. So I think she came from like a very peaceful and harmonic household, which was very unique, I'd say probably for that particular time frame.
So, yeah, she grew up between London, Moscow and Paris and she played the harp and had an Indian instrument called the vena, which we will maybe post a little bit online because it's actually really cool. She wrote a children's book, a retelling of Buddhist Jakarta tales, and that was actually published in 1939. She spoke French French fluently.
Don't judge me a little bit, people. I'm on a little bit of a kick here.
She was kind, she was thoughtful, very quiet.
And this becomes fairly relevant. She was absolutely made of freaking steel on the inside. You would not look at a heart playing children's book author and think, yeah, that's our spy. Which is exactly what she was. Perfect for the job, right? 1940, the Nazis roll into France. Noor and her family escape to England. And here's where the gear shift kind of happens. She joins the Women's Auxiliary Auxiliary Air Force, the soe, Special Operations Executive, which is basically spy agency in Britain.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: So cool.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: I know it's kind of feels like kind of a really like old timey, dramatic story.
[00:03:26] Speaker B: But like Ocean's Eleven.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: Yeah, but like when there's women in it and Nazis. Yeah, they keep looking. So the boe, the or the soe, the Special Operations Executives came looking for French speaking women who can operate wireless radios inside of, you know, 1940, wireless radios was like brand new technology. Right. They wanted them to go into occupied France.
And Noor obviously volunteered like willingly. She did not hesitate for a single freaking second. But really cool, right? Like, have you ever heard of this person before? She's totally on the fringe of history. I would say.
[00:04:01] Speaker B: No.
[00:04:02] Speaker A: Badass. Right.
[00:04:03] Speaker B: It's just so interesting because this seems a lot more.
What's the word? Just like poignant in as far as like what goes and like. But all we hear about is Anne Frank of like a really powerful woman during this time, during that whole situation. So maybe, maybe it's just like the religion based part of it, the fact that Anne Frank was Jewish and everything. But yeah, this is so interesting that she actually was like helping and no one knows her or I definitely didn't know her.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: Mm.
Yeah. I mean I would say that like Anne Frank became historically relevant from her book that was documentated like documenting her life during the occupation of.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: Totally. But she wasn't alive to see that being published.
[00:04:47] Speaker A: No, this was definitely.
[00:04:49] Speaker B: Someone had to choose her, like select her and publish her book. And then all of a sudden she became really relevant and popular. You know what I mean? So it's so interesting that like how that actually goes about. And also it goes back to the fact of like white people.
[00:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: Always getting the spotlight. This is obviously not a white person and nor does she have a like white person name. So it's very interesting that she is still unknown kind of. So.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: Absolutely.
And she's a woman Too like the woman operators, like Julia Child and stuff. They had assessors, grown men writing official records describing her as overburdened with brains. Or they thought she was too sensitive and too gentle and too emotional. Like, we still deal with that on a day to day basis as women in the world. Like, it's very prevalent, I'd say to today.
[00:05:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:42] Speaker A: So she passed away in June 1943. She was parachuted into occupied France under the code name Madeleine, which I love. I'm like kind of a. I love it.
[00:05:52] Speaker B: Taylor does love them. I do.
[00:05:55] Speaker A: And she became the first female wireless operator deployed into France. Now being a wireless operator was one of the most dangerous jobs in the entire world or war. Excuse me.
You're basically carrying this huge, heavy, like expensive suitcase of radio transmitter materials and things. And the Gestapos have detector vans driving the streets trying to triangulate your signal. So you may be 20 minutes per transmission before they like actually find you. You have to like memorize codes and move to safe houses constantly. You have to like never get caught. So she's like one or two, three steps ahead. The Gestapo consistently for that, I think four month period.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: Also just like taking on that mission when you know that they have like no shot of actually surviving it.
[00:06:38] Speaker A: That's crazy. I know. The life expectancy for a wireless operator was six weeks.
Six weeks was what they were expecting. She signed up willingly to basically survive for six weeks, but she ended up lasting for four months.
So, yeah, that was kind of crazy that she was just on it like in the network totally collapsed because they didn't have like the infrastructure as a British operation to maintain her security.
So she was definitely moving around a lot with like mass arrests, all of her colleagues gone. She was offered a plane ride home.
And she quote, I am the only link between London and the French Resistance left in the city. I'm staying. Like, that's what she.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: So cool.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: I know, right? Anyway, she's just such a badass.
So she was basically betrayed. Somebody sells her out or sells out her location to the Gestapo. And to this day, I think we're still kind of figuring out or debating who did that. She was the most wanted person on the Gestapo's list in Paris. Even when they came for her to. She fought. She like tried to escape.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: Taken in for interrogation.
Hours and hours of it. 1940, like the Geneva Convention was not a thing. So, like, I'm sure that this was all horrific.
Didn't give them anything. She. Not one name, not one location, not a damn thing. She almost got Away. She, like, basically tried to escape, got onto the roof and nearly made it. She got recaptured, tried again, recaptured again. And. And at that point, the Nazi.
[00:08:11] Speaker B: Damn.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: The Nazis had clarified her or classified her officially as, like, highly dangerous.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: Yeah. She was basically sent to prison. I'm not going to try to pronounce it. I will put more information online. Kept in solitary confinement in chains for 10 months. 10 months in chains, in confinement under Nazi control. Anyway, she was transferred to concentration camp. She was executed. She was 30 years old. And the last word she said was liberty in freedom in French.
So, yeah, I think that, like, in today's world, just knowing that there are women in our history that have been rebellious, who are like, absolute badasses, who don't conform, who don't give an inch, she's like, definitely on the right side of history here. And I just, like, really love her story. So, yeah, Liberty.
[00:09:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:04] Speaker A: And that's her. What do you think? Is that, like, very kind of interesting? I know. It's just like a quick little snapshot, like there's more information. She's wholly fascinating individual.
[00:09:13] Speaker B: I mean, I'm surprised she lived until 30. I don't know why I thought she would have died earlier than that. Just because it seemed like she made the jump really young. So it seemed like she was doing the right thing for a while. So that's really cool. I mean, yeah, it's so interesting why I have never heard of this person and.
[00:09:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I don't know why, actually. That's one part of the research that I went into and I wasn't entirely sure why she didn't. Why she's not more of a conversation topic when it. When it comes to the World War II, like, spy game.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: Well, why. How did you hear about her in the first place?
[00:09:52] Speaker A: Well, she's on my list. I have a list of women and, like, list of icons that I know very surface level about. But the whole point of this legends, like segment or icon segment, whatever the working title is, is just to spend a little bit more time on those individuals. Like, I really want to dive deep and understand why they resonate to me.
And part of the values conversation that we had earlier on in the podcast, I think, like the last two episodes, I really started to, like, identify that there is truth and honesty and good people in the history of humanity that like, just get swept under the rug. And then what's interesting now in the world and how society is changing the roles that we are being told to play by the powers that be, blah, blah, Blah. Like, it hasn't always been that way. We can always fight against that. We can always just choose to be good people and be on the right side of history. Like, it doesn't have to be one way or the other.
[00:10:48] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: So, yeah. I'm just. I have this whole list of people that are kind of on the fringe of history that we're going to learn a little bit more about and it's going to be very minimal. Right. Like, this is not a full in depth review, but I'm doing that on the side.
[00:11:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's cool that you want to, like.
Yeah. Or better yourself. I don't know the right word. I don't know if that's the correct term that I'm, like, looking for. But it just like the thing that's just coming to mind.
[00:11:14] Speaker A: Myself and my just, you know, going in different directions. Moving into learning.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: Yeah. That we just never knew. We never knew, you know, like, expanding our brains. We have this Internet at our fingertips and we should be utilizing it for the reason that it's there. I guess so.
Yeah. That's very cool. Thank you for sharing.
Nor and not con. Yes.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: Nor and not cons.
[00:11:37] Speaker B: Awesome.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: And now everybody can say it. We'll have more links and stuff that you want to. That if you are interested in learning more about her, let me know. I'll talk your ear off about it. I'm kind of like thinking this could be a cool, like, book club thing, but yeah, that's our first one. I hope that it.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I do want to see a picture of her. I'll have to look her up.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: I'll look her up. I'll. I'm sure she's on like the TikToks or something. I'll figure it out. But.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you don't have to bring it up now.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: That's our first, like, icon segments. It was pretty painless, right? Oh, my gosh.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: Yeah. No, that was so cool. Thank you for sharing. I really appreciate it. Also, it's like, fun for me to learn something too. Like, who knew we were gonna be an educational podcast? You know what I mean? We're just like.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: We are.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: We're here for the girly, educating our
[00:12:20] Speaker A: four or five listeners. What's up, guys? Hope you're enjoying that.
Wait, okay.
Tell me what's going on in your life.
[00:12:30] Speaker B: Yeah, today's.
We had an early record today, which is great because hopefully I'm gonna get out and do something out in the world. It was raining for like a hot second Here the weather has been kind of weird. Like, it's like 80 degrees, and then it's like, 40 degrees, and then it's 80 degrees and it's 40 degrees. So this year, like, really doesn't know what it wants to do, so. Yeah, but all good. We. Last weekend we were here. It's like our last weekend in Bend for quite some time.
Tis the season. You know what I mean?
But it's okay.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: You're like, we're fin off all of your various adventures.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: Yeah, totally.
So I think we might have, like, one weekend in between now and, like, June potential.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: Okay, kick it off. So, like, next weekend's work weekend. What's after that?
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Then we're going to Salt Lake to see Sam and Josh. And then the weekend after that, I'm going to a bachelorette party in, like, the Mount Hood area. And then I think that is the one weekend after that that I have free. And then it is Crystal Crane hot spring camping for Alexis and Riley's birthday. And then we have something that the next weekend. I can't remember. Oh, we're going camping. And then the weekend after that is my birthday. And then the weekend after that is Falcon Forage. And then the weekend after that is Strawberry. And then the weekend after that is camping on the Metolius. The weekend after that is Connor and Jordy's wedding. The weekend after that is Sawtooth. And then I think it's the end of June, so.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: Wow. Yep.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: Yep. Let's see.
[00:14:03] Speaker A: You got places to be and people to see.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: C. Yeah.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Talk to me.
Talk to me about Strawberry. Like, I mean, we're gonna talk about work weekend. Yes, we'll definitely get into it. But are. Have we decided officially that we're gonna do fall?
[00:14:17] Speaker B: Yeah, we need. We need to talk about it.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: Totally different, because that would leave me
[00:14:21] Speaker B: another free weekend in. In May, which would be great.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:24] Speaker B: So, yeah, tbd.
We have to do pros and cons, I think, and just see, like, what everyone else signed up for. Kind of. So.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: Okay, so we're still not officially declaring that we're gonna go to fall festival or a fall strawberry, which I kind of hope.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: It's just that my only hesitation is that fall is just so cold.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: I thought fall was, like, burning hot. I feel like the last time we had to sit around with scorpions in October.
Yeah, that's true.
[00:14:51] Speaker B: That was Labor Day, though. That's September. Like, the beginning September. Okay.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: Anyway. Dang.
[00:14:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: Your calendar is booked. But this is so totally.
[00:15:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: The norm.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: Right?
I know, but I Wish that it wasn't a little bit, but it's okay. There's some things that we probably can, like, shift around and move around if we need to. So no problem. We'll survive. And it's also just all fun, amazing things that I'm sure that we'll want to do in the moment. But just like, thinking about it in those terms, like, so this. All of that being said. Yeah. Was that we felt like we really had to get a lot of projects done this last weekend because we're not going to be around really to do projects. And, like, it's hard to do it during the week. Like, I'm pooped right now. Today was a rough day, so I don't really feel like doing anything besides like date night or whatever during the week or going to yoga or working out, whatever.
So that's where I'm at these days. And.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: Yeah, but.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: So we made a bunch of planter boxes. I did not really do in very much. Matt Matteo made the planter boxes and they're super cool and they're so pretty and I'm really excited. And then we, like, I. I moved some plants around so we can make like, like berry patch that we're gonna work on. And then we, like, made a fence so that the stinker Nator Myla dog cannot eat all of the garden because she 100 will when we're not paying attention. So, yeah, we did like a bunch of stuff like that and just like got things ready for summer kind of, because by the time we know it, it's going to be summer. So. Yeah, we're just looking forward to that. And then, yeah, it was like a really fast weekend. It went by so freaking fast. And then now allergies are happening and I can't breathe through my nose again. So I don't know. But also, it's going to be beautiful in California. I cannot wait. Mom was telling me last night that it was so hot down in Grass Valley that they had to sleep with all the doors open of the rv. Isn't that easy?
[00:16:37] Speaker A: Remember last year was like, oh, we
[00:16:39] Speaker B: should just bring a tent.
Yeah, we should just bring a tent and just leave it in 10 if we want to. That would be sweet. And just get to hang.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: We'll talk about it later, but.
[00:16:47] Speaker A: Well, we can talk about it.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:48] Speaker A: How are you? Things are good.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: I.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: So we went to Seattle this last weekend. We were there.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: Yeah. How was it?
[00:16:54] Speaker A: It was really nice, actually. It was beautiful. The sun came out. It wasn't like, rainy. So this was the first time that, like my, I guess, brother in law.
Yeah, brother in law. That sounds accurate. It was his first time out in Seattle, so he got really lucky. And I told him, you know, I wouldn't. The three years that we lived there, it was raining non stop and snowing all the time. But there was like these very small moments where the sun comes out and everybody. We went to the market for like a few hours. It was so, so busy because there was a million people because the sun was out and it was Saturday.
Cool.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: And we went to Belltown. We stayed in Belltown. We went to Capitol Hill. We like, walked. We did the scooters a lot. Like, I think Seattle is kind of a fun downtown area to do some scooting. So it was really, really good. And I really enjoy Seattle.
We did stay in Belltown, which, like, isn't the safest part of the city. Like right on 3rd Street. But it was a cheap little hotel. They were there for like less than 24 hours. So it kind of worked out really well.
And the drive was like very fast. It's only three hours away, which is not too bad. So, yeah, Seattle was great. It was really lovely. And you know, seeing Sister in law again, seeing the fam, that was always really. It's always great to see them.
But they did tell me because, like, they have.
I gotta tell you what I've been watching, like, lately. And then we'll come back to the whole work weekend thing. But, oh yeah, I've been watching this. I watched the documentary about Inside the Manosphere. And I won't go into the specifics, but. But I highly recommend that you watch it, especially if you have young children, especially if you have young boys, because it's just.
I mean, I know that we cringe every time we talk about those types of influencers, but it's so. It's a grift. Like, it's so commonplace. I'd say, like, what women went through in 2002-2000 and 1998 to like 2010, with all of the crap about, you know, being super thin and, you know, having to buy the right things and be the right things. Like, women have always been subjected to that kind of scrutiny. And we were sold by old men creating, like, Victoria's Secret.
Like, it's very gross and icky, but it's very much happening with young men right now. And like, the ideology of what it. What masculinity means, it's just really cringe and very prevalent because so my Sister in law has a couple of kids that are like, you know, 20, 19 or whatever, and they.
They watch these dudes, they watch them. And I'm like, how you're an intelligent human being. How can you fall?
I mean, I get it. You're like, not really formally. Like, you're not formed in your brain and your. Your life experiences to maybe not like, realize that you're being targeted, but you are. Like, it's just the things that they say are crazy. I don't know. I just don't understand. So it's good for me to like, watch that through a critical lens, like a documentary, to maybe just get exposure to it, because I had no idea, like, these. What the depth and like the depravity that these people are espousing. It's just crazy.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: So gnarly. Yeah.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: Okay. So you think it's like a crazy. You should watch it.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: I think you should.
Yeah. If you pay for a Netflix subscription. Don't buy a Netflix subscription just for this thing. But I think it's very.
It's just very relevant.
[00:20:21] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure.
It's just so interesting. Like, we were in Lowe's on Sunday, and the man in the paint section, I literally, I just have like such a radar for men who are terrible and annoying, as in that way. Like, I like, obviously I'm like, with Matt and whatever, so. But, like, the way that he was talking to us was just, like, so crazy. I mean, it would be different if I was by myself. I probably would have punched him in the face. But like, the way that he was talking to us just in general, and I was like, oh, my God. I have like.
Yeah. I don't know how to describe it even. Just like, he's like.
He's like, okay, you're getting paint. Does that mean you have paint brushes? Does that mean you know what you're doing? I don't know. Like, it was just like, so insane. And he was talking so loud like, like that. And I was just like, are. Are you. Are you. If you're not handicapped? Like, I'm severely disturbed because how can you possibly live your life this way? And how does anyone want to be around you? Like, and it's so funny because I instantly am just, like, turned off, you know? And I'm just like, oh, my God, get him away from me. Like, I'm going to freak out. And Matt has, like, no knowledge of it whatsoever. He's just like, what do you mean? Oh, yeah, the guy's talking really loud and I'm like, no, it's not even that. It's, like, the way that he's talking and how he's talking to us, like. And, yeah, it's just so interesting. Like, it's such a funny balance and where I'm just like, okay, I'm out. And, like, I'm leaving the situation because I will freak out if, like, he talks to me anymore or whatever. And so Matt had to, like, handle the paint situation. But it's just funny how boys don't even, like, recognize.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: I know.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: Or, like, think about it.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: I can't tell you how many times I felt like I have been, like, they have to impart wisdom or, like, they have to talk down to me because they expect me to be dumber or they expect me not to understand.
And so they'll talk slower or they'll talk faster or they'll talk over me. And I gotta tell you, that's an immediate red flag for me. That's just, like, my ultimate ick.
I can't even have a conversation with you because your solution to me not listening to you is just to talk louder. Like, that doesn't really make sense. I'm gonna excuse myself from this conversation. Goodbye. Yeah, I don't know. There's, like, a point in this market, a point in this documentary where this guy just has, like, a bunch of only fans, like, models and people on his podcast, and it's just a setup to ask them dumb questions and, like, make them look like a dumb participant. I'm like, I get that people get really excited about sensationalism, especially online, especially when you're younger.
[00:22:59] Speaker B: I get it.
[00:23:00] Speaker A: I just don't think that that's good content. I don't think that what we do is good content. I'll just admit that, like, you and I are just shooting the shit, for sure. But, like, we don't command, you know, we're not grifting people to, like, pay for our investment trading scam or, you
[00:23:17] Speaker B: know, like a hundred percent. So. But I do say, I will say that some women feed off of that, right? Like, a lot of women, specifically on only fans and things like that, like, know that they are just seen as a stupid, so there's no point in them trying to sound smart or look smart. They're just gonna work with what they have, you know? And I totally, like, get that as well, because it's like, why don't you just beat them at their own game where it's like, I'm making a bunch of money because you're having me on this Podcast or like this, that or the other. So it's like a weird balance of like, yes, I hate that for women. But at the same time it's like if no one's gonna give you the time of day and regardless, like why not just make money or whatever you're trying to do, whatever you're.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: I don't want to fault people for like chasing that paper, but I am gonna fault the way that you chase that paper and like who you step on and over and demean and you know, I, I will give them like you take responsibility for that, right? Like that's how you make your livelihood. Those are your choices.
But you also take responsibility with like how you present yourself to the world. And if you are going to monetize on that presentation, then I have the right to, I think to criticize them.
I choose not to criticize. I'm very sex positive. I'm very sex worker positive. Like if you want to have your only fans and that's how you make, you know, you chase that paper, go for it, kid. I'm not going to give you a hard time about it, but I am going to give a hard time to the guy who invites you on his podcast for the views because right, this only fans person has like X amount of subscribers and then gives them a very structured experience where they are actively demeaning you because you are a sex worker because they want you to look stupid like that. I'm gonna have some questionable, I'm gonna have some questions.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure, A hundred percent.
[00:25:01] Speaker A: I also have to tell you this one last thing and then we'll move on, I promise.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: Most of these individuals are in what they call war, one way monogamous relationships. Like, what is your immediate reaction?
[00:25:12] Speaker B: I hate that.
That is so annoying.
[00:25:17] Speaker A: One way monogamous relationships. Like that doesn't make any sense.
Oh my God, that's awful.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: And that's just like literally sums up the entire conversation to be honest. It's like, oh yeah, women definitely have to be monogamous to their men, but the men don't have to be like this. That, I mean, yeah, obviously I'm a very monogamous person. I don't know if that's obvious actually, but I am a very monogamous person and I am so jealous. So there's no way I would ever be otherwise. But like the fact that it's one sided, just like the name alone makes me want to punch them all in the face.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: Right?
[00:25:50] Speaker B: So insane.
[00:25:51] Speaker A: Okay, good. I'm glad that I'm not the only person who like had to pause when I heard that in the documentary. I literally had to like stand up and be like monogamous in of itself is one. Right. Like mono. So you can't. It just seems to me like, I don't know if this is an actual fact, but an oxymoron to be a one or like to be a one sided monogamous, like that just doesn't seem right in the English brain that I have.
So not only from like, yeah, it's just wicked disrespectful. Like I'm not here to like, yuck anybody's yum. Your relationship is your relationship, whatever.
But the way, like the way that they structure it as one way monogamous and that they are the provider and they are the man. I'm just so happy in my life choices and I feel so validated that I don't associate with men like that. I don't see any redeemable factor in any of the individuals that were at least in this documentary so far.
Like, I just really happy that my life choices lead me on a path to having full, fully fledged, you know, healthy relationships somewhat with men who don't associate with that. I don't know all the friends that were.
[00:27:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. People you subscribe to yourself with.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: And I think that's just telling. So watch it.
[00:27:10] Speaker B: It's.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: It's not. I don't want to say that it's fascinating.
[00:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: But it's an insightful way to look at what is like really happening to our youth.
And you know, people say that you get brainwashed as a liberal and as a feminist and whatever. And I look over at what they're teaching kids on the other side and I'm like, how do you not see what you're doing is literally the same? Not only that, but you're profiting off of it. It's awful.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: I know, 100%. Not to mention that they're putting all of us down the drain at the same time and lying straight to your face. I mean, yeah, I'm not saying that liberals are any better about all of the, I don't know, extremisms, but. Yeah, when there's actual money on the line and we're actually absolute like laughing stock to the rest of the world, that's where lack of really draws the line.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: All right, let's move on. Sorry. But anyway, my softbox. My soapbox.
[00:28:04] Speaker B: No, soft box.
[00:28:09] Speaker A: Anyway. All right,
[00:28:13] Speaker B: anyway.
Yeah, well, I'm very happily.
Okay, now we both can't talk, can you guys tell that we both had a long day at work today.
Anyways, we just really wanted to come on and I really, it was excited to get the Legends part of our podcast, like, underway because we're in season four, everybody. And I'm really excited for Keith Flair, all the work that she's done on this Legends portion. And so I really wanted to highlight how awesome she is and how she's so inspirational in her own way, because, yeah, I would never.
I just don't have the. The time at the moment to put towards something like a project like this. So it's very cool. And I'm learning so much as well. So it'll be so fun for all of us, the listeners and me that I get to learn. I'm so excited.
[00:28:58] Speaker A: We'll do one a month and then we're gonna have other topics too. But yeah, I'm glad that we got one on the books.
Go ahead.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. I was just gonna say that we are back on the, like, once a week train. I think we officially, officially have arrived. So just get excited to hear more from us.
But anyways, do you want to go into a gratitude and round out the app?
[00:29:20] Speaker A: Yes.
I feel like the manosphere thing was kind of my grievance, so we'll just leave that. As it, as it lay. I want to be really grateful.
So the sun is out. It's really beautiful. I have always. I always say that, but Kelly sent me cutest little letter the other day. It was. You got it.
[00:29:38] Speaker B: You didn't tell me that you received it.
[00:29:41] Speaker A: I didn't tell you. Thank you for sending it to me. I really appreciated it. I kind of needed it. Life's been a little insane these days, last few years, as we all know. It's a little insane, but I'm feeling.
I'm feeling really good. I don't know.
Even if my life blows up, like, I am obviously skilled. I present myself in a decent, okay way. Yeah. Friends who send me random letters and people who love me and genuinely appreciate me. So I'm living the good life and things will figure out. The world's gonna be okay.
Hopefully. Finances are gonna get there. Career is gonna be maybe not the thing that, like, dominates my personality.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: Fills your cup. Yeah, for sure.
[00:30:22] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm like, come get coming to terms with that. So, yeah. I'm just really grateful for your letter. I really needed it. And yay.
[00:30:29] Speaker B: I'm so glad. I really feel like just handwritten letters mean a lot to me. I love cards. I've always kept like, all the cards that I've ever received. And I just feel like, yeah, we don't write enough cards to each other and we don't send enough snail mail to each other. And so I just know that when people send me one that it really, like, lights me up. I forgot to tell you that I got your Christmas card, even though it was, like, the middle of January because I moved. Yeah.
But I totally got your Christmas card. And it's just, like, the best to get. Yeah. To get mail. And so, yeah, I just wanted to send you a little love note because.
[00:31:04] Speaker A: Yeah, just so cute.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: Love you so much. And it's nice sometimes to get reminded by people who love you. So, anyway, that's a great gratitude. Well, I'm grateful for you, but just agreed. I'm grateful for. Yeah, not surrounding ourselves with gross men. And that's grievance in itself, but no, just grateful for that we're in season four and that cables wanted to do this with me for this long. It's so fun.
And that we're actually, like, committing ourselves. I'm, like, very proud of us that we are getting online every Tuesday. We have a set date and we're making it happen.
[00:31:44] Speaker A: We have a calendar invite and every
[00:31:46] Speaker B: calendar, we have a schedule for every episode. K Flare is making our plan plan for every episode, which is so much work. So, yeah, just grateful for Kefler and wanting to kick off season four with a bang and all the work that she's done to make this podcast keep moving. Because, you know, it's a lot, and I know you guys hear us say
[00:32:07] Speaker A: that a lot, but it's a lot
[00:32:10] Speaker B: thankful to our producer for editing for us. That gives us a lot of, like, leeway and a lot more time and availability to be able to make this happen and do it once a week again. So I really think that coming online every week, I actually just listened to a good podcast that I was going to tell you about. I'll tell you about it in the. Maybe we could listen to it in the car, actually, because I would listen to it again.
But they were. It was like a pod. It's about a podcast. It's a podcast about a podcast. But they. It's about, like, the parasocial relationships that come from podcasting. And one of their, like, top, like, takeaways, basically, was that, like, posting more frequently or, like, having episodes more frequently will just, like, raise your.
Your viewership or whatever that much more. So anyways, that was my big takeaway. Not big takeaway from the episode because that's not at all what it's about, but it was interesting and I did think about that. But anyway, we're happy for season four and I'm grateful for you and doing all this work to make it happy and productive and something that we want to do and. Yeah, thank you so much.
[00:33:18] Speaker A: I know people text Kelly a lot with the comments and stuff, but I would love to hear from people since I'm curating some of these things, you know, on the Instagram for candidly or our website. I think there's going to be like a comment section or a way to get in touch with us. I would love to hear about things that you guys want to hear. Like, I'm gonna keep doing what I think is cool, talking about the icons. We're gonna talk about some other books, books and topics and finance and relationships and lifestyle and blah. And social economic things.
Not so much politics, because let's get away from that.
[00:33:53] Speaker B: We're gonna try not to.
[00:33:55] Speaker A: We're gonna try not to. But gas prices are insane and the world is the world, so we're gonna talk about it. But I'd love to hear from people, too, and just more guests and stuff. Speaking of a little teaser, Denali has decided or accepted so graciously to come back on the podcast later.
So if you guys have questions for her, if you want to get cool, then we'll do, like, another thing. So, yeah, we got stuff and people and things to do. We got a lot of stuff going on season four. Baby, we're here.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: 100p.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: 100p.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: We're here.
[00:34:28] Speaker A: Back out.
[00:34:29] Speaker B: All right, anyway, well, that's it for us today. We hope you liked this episode. Please let us know how you feel about the Legends podcast and all the. Yeah, it's so cool. So anyways, we hope you loved it
[00:34:42] Speaker A: and I want to hear feedback.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: We love you all so much.
[00:34:46] Speaker A: Bye.
[00:34:46] Speaker B: Thanks for being candid with us.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: Thanks for being candid. Love you.
[00:34:50] Speaker B: Bye.
[00:35:12] Speaker A: That's all for today's episode.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: Hope you enjoyed listening as much as we love you.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: Follow us on Instagram and 30.
[00:35:18] Speaker B: See you next week.
[00:35:23] Speaker A: Sam.
